Aug 25, 2008

Conversion starts this way...

(Added Sept 7th: Time to tell the truth behind conversions: By Rev Valson Thampu
"It is only too obvious, therefore, that the challenge of conversion can be met only by addressing
the plague of poverty")

I have nothing against Christianity, but I do not tolerate any kind of their deceitful evangelism and thereby conversion from other religions to Christianity, in India, especially with the innocents and illiterates.

Abuse a religion, highlight 'negatives' of a religion and show your 'positive solutions', dare to stand in front of a temple and distribute pamphlets that says 'Christ is the saviour', do your bit of religious talk to pull in some listeners (yeah listening to us is good enough for a start,) keep saying and posting banners around that 'Jesus arrives'....are the initial methods of religious propaganda to convert the minds of non-christians (in other words Satans, because they believe in 'false Gods.')

If I were born to christian parents, and if I was a fanatic, I would have done the above to obey my God's words. Because I would have been made to believe that Jesus wants whole world to believe there is ONLY him. There can be no other God, no other belief, no other religion, no other Saviour, no other culture..... it can ONLY be Jesus. Period.

So half dozen evangelists, who for all good purposes haven't changed their original Hindu names (sic!) have done exactly the propaganda that happens everyday everywhere in the world where Christians believe Satans live. It happens everyday in India, in Bangalore too. But only this time, I am yet to believe the news paper dared to put it as news. Read what happened next.

Well, what if me, a Hindu, do exactly the same in front of a Church? or Mosque? I distribute pamphlets of Brahma Vishnu Maheswara. Proclaim 'There is ONLY ONE God Brahma. And He is the ONLY ONE to save you. He comes to YOU NOW!' Just imagine what would happen if I stand with a group in front of a church and pull out people talk to them about Hindu Gods. What reactions do you expect from those christians or muslims? I know for sure, if its a mosque, my group will be beaten beyond recognition even before police 'conveniently' arrives. If its a church, they just don't care and walk away, stuffing some 'Jesus Saves You' pamphlets into our hands. They don't argue (cuz they know they can't beyond a point.) One may even come closer and mark a cross over your heart and murmur "Let Jesus forgive you" !!

Why should these religious beggars seek conversion as alms? Why the innocent children from all over the world, who would have lost their parents in so many ways, become 'victims' of this conversion? Why the fanatic religions take it up as their birth right, even before the respective governments entrusts agencies to make safe arrangements to those children, to snatch them and baptise them? Do the children know what is being done to them? Do they understand anything about religion?

Even in America where one of the Christian denominations, the Baptists feel they must convert America to completely christian by 2020! So this video is one of their techniques to brainwash people into whatever or whoever they believe is God.
This is called "Intentional Evangelism" and they have absolutely no shame in carrying out this kind of technique. Watch it :) Video

This broadly planned technique of conversion of minds to believe that one's religion is 'not worth' before the ONLY God that the evangelists profess, starts this way. We friends, while living in an apartment in California, had some 4-5 women knocking on our door. They entered our apartment complex unsolicited. These american whites appeared to be doing some sales, initially, but soon we realized what they were selling when they asked us to attend sunday mass at the nearby church. They did not give up even after we told them clearly we were Hindus. We had to ask them to get out of the apartment. While leaving, they sure gestured a cross on our heads, apparently, asking their God to forgive us! The history of this conversion goes back to 17th and 18th century, when the christian missionaries from Europe and specifically Britain were brought into India for this very purpose.

Let you hear from the very horse mouth. Let you know what methods to use for converting non-christians to christianity :) "We want non-christians to choose out of their free will to accept Jesus Christ as the Kings of kings and Lord of lords. It is important to find good strategies to get the maximum result, to convert as many people as possible to Christianity"

How to convert Indians in America (Hindus to Christians) : Learn these Steps in Church Planting by Rajendra Pillai : Also on his page : Curry Lovers among us. This Indian guy still has Hindu name but is a preacher at some Church in Pittsburg, USA. So Indians in America take a close look at this idiot's face in the site, and kick his butt if he 'befriends' you.

References:

1. 1883 Education system in India

2. Converting areas too in Bangalore

3. Converting at all odds: Orissa story that continues till this day

4. Luring you into another religion

5. Inviting evangelists and funds to plant Churches in Orissa
(This evangelism site reveals clearly the intentions of this Christian denomination to convert
Orissa tribals by planting Churches in every village. "We believe Orissa will be transformed
through intensive prayer. Prayer is a must if we want to see God in action in Orissa.")

6. "A very populous nation, India offers multiple opportunities for a good harvest. Many graduates of SOEs are laboring across this great land, often in very hostile environments."

7. The strategy of Portable Bible Schools
"ENQUIRE....The region is surveyed, and teams search out the spiritual condition of the area, gathering relevant statistics. Prayer is conducted in the villages, which are placed on a map to be targeted."

8. Page 12: – Congregations – TO DISCIPLE NEW BELIEVERS>This is an ongoing ministry hence the Big Brother/Sister would keep befriending the new believer as long as he/she needs special attention. When they see that a solid integration has been made, they can consider their assignment completed. The past weeks of friendship will never be forgotten by either of them, but the need for Big Brother’s or Big Sister’s involve­ment is ended and he/she can thank God for a precious experience which was for them a growing time". "With the experience of first love, a Christian begins his spiritual walk. The devil is not happy with losing his hold on the redeemed that was once his slave. He knows how to use greed, shame, pride, doubt to torment young believers. So he tempts, beguiles, and does his best to drag down the young child of God. Falling brings sorrow. Here, help can come from the indwell­ing Holy Spirit, from the use of the Word, from caring prayers and guid­ance of mature Christians, or from a bit of counsel by a pastor or an elder."


Aug 16, 2008

Terrorism within India

Whatever Bandit. Jameelanwarlal Nehru, (with all my due respect to only his Prime Minister chair) his party and his family did to this country, has left a irreversible damage to the society and the nation. They just cannot take a stern action on terrorist groups within India and have let them have a free life to their will in India. Yes only in India, that is Hindustan.

What they lack is the true sense of patriotism. None in the world will ever like Hitler, but one doesn't have to be such a brutal dictator or killer as him to save our countrymen from the terrorists.

Elsewhere in other countries, they clearly spell out the perpetrators of terrorism by their clan, religion and group. Australia has already prepared to weed out Islam terrorism from their land. Our leaders in Congress and their boot lickers have no guts to do that in our country. Is only the votes that matter to them? Or is there more to it? I guess it has more.

Congress does not want to implement POTA because BJP, their rival party, had given a final shape to the process. Congress do not care if nation goes up in flame but they just cant take it being seen as second in intelligence to BJP. It is a straight party ego over national security.

They do not really want to ban SIMI and so they do not come to the point. They have many excuses. Even the Supreme Court, probably, made to differ their decision and good for Congressmen to keep S.C at bay on this issue. There must be some conspiracy I believe. Meanwhile the investigators in Gujarat has pointed at SIMI for it's involvement in the recent blasts. I pity the NDTV which quickly adds in their news that Gujarat police have not found concrete links of blasts to SIMI. But when godhra burned, even before any agency tried to find out the culprits, these news agencies had already pointed fingers at VHP and Sangh Parivar. It simply does not matter again, if the actual culprits must be identified, but it is a matter of selling your product playing on people's emotions. Most of these news media being supported and financed by non-Hindu organisations and societies it is but natural to expect their hate of anything about Sangh.

But look at where we are today. No solution by the central government on the series of blasts in India. The actual Godhra killers and train burners are still at large. They work under no pressure. There is no urgency to weed out terrorism here. Because right from Nehru, in one way or other, they have always homegrown these terrorists. If Indira had to die to her body guard's gun, Rajiv Gandhi to LTTE, Sanjay Gandhi to a conspiracy from within his own close people, it is very likely that today the home grown terrorists are out to take life of their boss, soon.

How will India ever learn to separate out the local born-here-grown-here muslims from the so-called external terrorists? Why shouldn't the Indian muslims take oath to identify and handover whoever they suspect as being externally supported, living within our country, in their own homes? As we see many of these families are letting their kins go join various terrorists groups and getting trained by them and then again sent back home to pursue their 'jihad' against India. Do the parents or their friends and relatives not know about this? They know but they let them be jihadis in the name of Allah? I don't believe the muslims in our country who turn terrorists are capable of keeping their change in heart a top secret. They are not capable of doing that at least within their community. It must be a matter of pride for them to be jihadis for the cause of bringing whole human race to believe in, only, Allah. Do they have any other goal in their life?

India never seem to have an end to all this. Be it conversion-under-covers of Hindus, ST/SCs, Dalits to other religions, or internal terrorism, illogical caste wars and even economical divide of society... India has not found any solution. Blame it on successive governments and the people at large who love to live confused and so obviously become indifferent to the issues. Its like when hundreds die in Kashmir, we just read it in the passing and switch on to hot news from Bollywood. People being killed in Kashmir has become a everyday news! We just ignore it after sometime. Why do you think Times Of India and similar publishers prints news of semi-half-nude Mallika Sherawat on first page and achievements by Narendra Modi's government on the 5th? She sells warmer than Modi's charm.

Inference: There is a whole hearted support to terrorism by certain section of muslims within India. They were born here, educated here and getting all benefits from the government under minority label. Congress, particularly, which loves muslims for their political reasons, have no guts to wipe out such elements out of India. There is no strong will. Terrorism is here to stay, indirectly. Our information media is sick. Their viewpoints do no good for society. Their bias over many national issues are very apparent. They sway to the wind. India remains chaotic. Indians are highly emotional on many national issues, but equally selfish. That is why there can be no solutions. Just as an example, Sri Rama temple in Ayodhya is going nowhere. The issue is simply forgotten over time. This will be brought back by all political parties when its good for them. But no solution. No one wants to scientifically explore the proofs and produce it before court and public. If an agency has the proof, a party wants to hush it up.
Another example is how media made a big news about Arushi's murder and finally all the commotion ended up as another regular rape and murder case. But of all the thousands of young girls and kids being raped day in day out why Arushi's murder took the centerstage for weeks? Why the media is more concerned with more influential people? Why didnt the same media run behind the courts and pressurize both courts and political parties to bring about stern laws, expose incapabilities of crime investigators? What about the minor kids being raped everyday? Media may or may not mention them even in the passing!

Tehelka hasn't yet substantiated or proved anything of Godhra or their recent 'expose' of 'tapes' of 'conspiracy' by RSS VHP BJP workers. The same news agency does not dare to expose terrorists!

I am happy to read this today after I posted the above last week. The father of SIMI terrorist says his son must be hanged if they found proofs of his crime. That's the way to go!