Dec 28, 2007

Evangelists in Orissa: Converting against all odds

Orissa: VHP turns violent and burns Churches. Hmm! ok. There is a history to Orissa-Christianity-Tribals.
"The VHP launched its violent onslaught claiming it wants to stop conversions to Christianity, accusing Churches of proselytising." - AsiaNews.IT
(Fact file of conversions happening since 200 years among Tribals of Orissa is given below)

So they mean there were no conversion attempts? Is it a false claim by VHP? They DO NOT Convert Hindus and Tribals to Christianity? What other agenda do their missionaries have?

On Christmas Day it (VHP) celebrated for instance the “return” (barbaratan or ‘coming home’) to Hinduism of 82 families or 187 Christians, 103 men and 84 women, at a ceremony in the village of Chikita in Sundergarth District (Orissa) that included receiving images of Hindu divinities.
82 families or 187 Christians were Hindus earlier! They accept that fact don't they? Now the same converts are willingly coming back to Hindu fold. Why? Why couldn't they have them say NO to VHP for re-conversion? Even this very AsiaNews website has written a lot about conversion activities by their missionaries. Pope has only repeated his church's intention this year too just as he did last year. I had also said in my earlier blog that if these missionaries continue to convert tribal people in India they can expect retaliations by VHP. After all tribals are ignorant victims of this evangelist missionaries.

For the Church, Asia is the continent of the future, not only in terms of personnel, but also as a missionary field. There is a lot of Asia in the Church's future: Benedict XVI.
Quite naturally they want the VHP be banned. By playing it 'innocent' these missionaries cannot go too far. It is all over the internet to prove what they come into India for. They have no other aim in life than to convert entire world into Christianity whatever it takes.

Proof: Read this speech delivered by none other than the Pope at the Vatican City this year. If they are there converting, don't they anticipate much ahead, attacks by Sangh Parivar? How many times this has been happening to them? Why are they allowing it to happen if they claim themselves to be a "peaceful religion"? Their idea is to allow VHP to attack as much as they can and to take mileage out of it by painting a "Hindu Terrorist" image of Sangh Parivar / VHP. Their 'innocence' has its hidden agenda. Let the world know it.

“A disciple of Jesus Christ – he continues -must also be a missionary”, but “today is it still permissible to “evangelize”? Instead should not all of the world’s religions and concepts not simply seek to peacefully coexist and together try to do their best for humanity each in their own way?" This is a question the Pope asks and answers himself thus: "Well, it is beyond discussion that we must coexist and cooperate in tolerance and reciprocal respect. The Catholic Church is energetically committed to this”. But “this desire for dialogue and collaboration perhaps means at the time means that we can no longer transmit the message of Jesus Christ, no longer put forward to mankind and the world this call and the hope that is derived from it? Those who recognise a great truth, those who have found great joy, must transmit it; they cannot simply keep it to themselves”. And “in order for this to happen, history needs the announcement of the Good News to all peoples and all men”, because “through our encounter with Jesus Christ and his saints, through our encounter with God, the balance of humanity is replenished in the force of good, without which all of programmes of social order never become a reality, but – in the face of other powerful pressures from interests contrary to peace and justice – they remain simply abstract theories”. - AsiaNews.IT - Vatican Pope says the Church is open to dialogue but cannot renounce spreading the Gospel.

Innocents, illiterates are their target. If they are concerned about the tribal health and welfare, why don't they work 365/24/7 with the governments and corporations and get them justice, instead? Why do they fool others to believe that Jesus is their only way? In what way have they relieved the converts of their poverty? Maybe they keep paying them monthly allowances to remain Christians? Why cant they just pressurise the governments to implement healthy schemes for them and educate them to become enlightened citizens? Why should they do it ONLY with Jesus? Won't Jesus be happy if you don't have them convert to Christianity for the whole world should be his sons and daughters? Even Jesus doesn't know that there is a world class 'religion' called Hindu? Jesus would surely not be as foolish as the evangelists. He would rather accept all Gods as his God.

Explore the root cause of all these violences. Get to the bottom of this very issue which has been there for ever. If they stop converting non Christians then VHP and Sangh Parivar will have nothing to fight against them. Can they do it RIGHT NOW?

Lastly, I must say, that VHP and its fiery outfits must not resort to violence even as a retaliation. They must know that these evangelists are already well prepared to write to the whole world that they are being attacked "for no reason"!!!!! VHP can rather open up national dialogue with evangelists challenging them to prove they are not into conversions, like how it was initiated some years ago during Ayodhya aftermath. Taking it in their own hands and burning and arsons will not take them anywhere. The Christian world will easily brand VHP as Hindu Terrorists, as easy as that. Try calling evangelists as "Christian Psychological Terrorists" because they terrorise the minds of poor intellects by their own perverted interpretations of our Vedas to the illiterates. Work Easily Done.
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I finished the above writing sometime this afternoon, but my mind never stopped the quest for truth (not for the fear of being wrong in what I believed) and I am posting this TRUTH, reading nonstop the document of 236 pages (its nearly 2:30am now,) about the General Baptist of England who set their foot as missionaries nearly 200 years ago in Orissa. They learned the language of the tribals, they systematically shattered the beliefs of the tribals to convert them to Christianity. Every account of their entire psychological methods of conversion in its raw terms are very clearly narrated (even day to day events at times) by one Otis Robinson sometime in the year 1964. There could have been other Christian denominations who worked along with the General Baptists at that time, but even to this day their success rate must have been slow though they haven't lost their heart in their mission to convert the poor innocent tribals who will consider you as Lord if you are compassionate. The compassion is good but purpose is venomous by the Christians who have even today setup their organizations in Orissa. After all everything they do (as openly claimed in the book) to the tribals will only lead to converting them through brain-washing.

PDF: http://digilib.bu.edu/dspace/handle/2144/682
Download PDF here. If you are impatient to read 236 pages, you may read pages 145 to 176 to read in context of my blog post.

Or Read Online

Read this doc on Scribd: Hinduism and Christianity in Orissa


Title: Hinduism and Christianity in Orissa: containing a brief description of the country, religion, manners and customs, of the Hindus, and an account of the operations of the American Freewill Baptist Mission in northern Orissa ... By O.R. Bacheler ...
Authors: Bacheler, O. R. (Otis Robinson), 1817-1901.
Keywords: Hinduism.
Missions -- Baptist Church -- India.
Issue Date: 1856
Publisher: Boston, G.C. Rand & Avery, 1856.
Description: http://www.archive.org/details/hinduismandchris00bachuoft
URI: http://hdl.handle.net/2144/682
http://hdl.handle.net/2144/682
Appears in Collections:Christian Mission

Dec 18, 2007

London Queen for Indian KinderGarten Kids!

Indian children learn English History, English Values, England Queen and London Bridge right from Kindergarten. All our poems, literature for the kids are derived or modified from English literatures. Every character in the story is English. This has not changed ever since the British nailed into our great grandfathers' brains that whatever is English is high above anything Indian. Those veterans still hold the Britishers in high esteem for their governance and education. I feel ashamed when my grandfather feels so. I feel ashamed that we are not proud of whatever we are. I have hated to have learned about the British Queen and London Bridge in my school poems ever since I started to love my country. But that love did not come from this education. It came from my upbringing and from being associated with various groups at an young age. I should talk about myself here only to believe that there are millions of Indians who have also felt the same but are as helpless as I am now. But to think there are others too with us is good to know. I use this media to attempt at what I think can change the way we educate our children in India.

I am seriously looking for creative poets from India to come up with Poems for school kids below 5th standard, which can replace the British left overs that has been there ever since my great grandfather was in school.

The purpose of this is to make our children imbibe values of India and not about England Queen or London Bridge or whatever. Our kids are made to learn these only because we never could come up with poems as good and as simple as them. Don't we have such creative minds in India? Please don't ask me why I am not trying to do this myself. I accept my inability to do it. But with a group, with other intelligent minds, I can definitely attempt something.

Let our children learn to be patriotic right from the school. What needs to go into their books is NOT Pooh The Bear or the Mickey Mouses. They need what they can relate to in their life around them. Only in India we place Mother, Father and Guru (Aachaarya) in a very high esteem in that order. If we do not provide these values at their tender age, they grow up without them. Today the TV shows for children no more carry any such great values we had when we were children. Those chinese cartoons, disney movies are good to watch but not good in values for OUR children. None of the events that these movies show can be related to life here in India. Everything our kids observe and learn becomes guided and taught by the western media. They can only love English!

Our governments do not attempt to do this. But you and me can make them do only if we are equipped to show them an alternative. In this regard, I request you to make an attempt to write poetry for children which can be way better than what we have inherited from the Britishers.

I propose to do it this way:

*** If you have a Blog or Webpage that already has indigenously Indian Poems for Children provide me the link
*** If you already have written some, send them to me by email
*** If someone you know is talented you can help them upload the poems
*** Let you know that your poems must carry values from our Indian culture and should always portray only about India and what we see around here in our daily life
*** This is nothing about religion. Kids must learn to respect all religions. They should never learn about Castes. They must never under-estimate any other human being (many movies talk low of blind people or limps goes unnoticed)
*** Our children should know history of our land before they even get to know history of England or USA.

Please write your comments. I greatly appreciate it.

Dec 8, 2007

The Truth that is....

For you and me, the Hindu way of life (it was never a religion) existed even longer than 10 thousand years before Christ was even created. Any other man made religion of the world can only be a segment of Hindu philosophy since to fathom the vastness and depth of Hindu philosophy it would take every other religion to first master their own first. When that cannot happen, none of them can ever even compare Hindu to any other religion, simply because of its practical truths (not what God supposed to have "said" as in case of Mohammad or Christ) are derived directly from the life of humans, wealth of the universe, metaphysical dimensions of the world and beyond. And still, Hindu philosophy is not about GOD its about the Mystery of this Universe we live in and how us humans relate and blend with it.

So, I read these articles, one forwarded by a good friend of mine, and I read further into the New Advent of Christianity. Now do not laugh reading this:
The pessimism of Schopenhauer and his school is indeed very like the pessimism of Buddhism and of the Vedanta system of philosophy, and seems to have been derived from one of these sources. But apart from this unimportant line of modern speculation, and from the abortive theosophic movement of more recent times, one finds no trace of Hindu influence on Western civilization. We have nothing to learn from India that makes for higher culture. On the other hand, India has much of value to learn from Christian civilization.

Hinduism in its narrower sense, is the conglomeration of religious beliefs and practices existing in India that have grown out of ancient Brahminism, and which stand in sharp contrast to orthodox, traditional Brahminism today. Hinduism is the popular, distorted, corrupted side of Brahminism. In its broad sense, it comprises those phases of religous, social, and intellectual life that are generally recognized in India today as the legitimate outgrowth of ancient Brahmin institutions, and hence are tolerated by the Brahmin priests as compatible with Brahmin traditions. Far from being a uniform system of worship, Hinduism, in this large sense, comprises, besides orthodox Brahminism...........................

Do they even understand what is Brahminism is? They dare to twist essence of other religions just to project their own as "valid"!

While trying to research their Christian past and studies there on, the Catholic Encyclopedia, tries to show its deliberate known ignorance to the world by putting down every other belief system below Christianity. Well this anyways can never make a Truth as unTruth. The ego is very evident from the above research, probably which is why, the missionaries work overtime to see to that the ignorants convert before they learn the truth about Christianity (or for that matter even Islam. Only these two religions are out there to convert people.)

There's another researcher, for now I am pleased to read this only because it opens up another angle in the debate over the very existence of Jesus Christ. The events depicted in sequence leads to the logical conclusion that Jesus Christ never was born, never walked on earth. He was created by King Constantine with good intentions of stopping holy wars in the world. This study says:
Christianity is an adaptation of Mithraism welded with the Druidic principles of the Culdees, some Egyptian elements (the pre-Christian Book of Revelation was originally called The Mysteries of Osiris and Isis), Greek philosophy and various aspects of Hinduism.
..Constantine returned to the gathering to discover that the presbyters had not agreed on a new deity but had balloted down to a shortlist of five prospects: Caesar, Krishna, Mithra, Horus and Zeus (Historia Ecclesiastica, Eusebius, c. 325). Constantine was the ruling spirit at Nicaea and he ultimately decided upon a new god for them. To involve British factions, he ruled that the name of the great Druid god, Hesus, be joined with the Eastern Saviour-god, Krishna (Krishna is Sanskrit for Christ), and thus Hesus Krishna would be the official name of the new Roman god. A vote was taken and it was with a majority show of hands (161 votes to 157) that both divinities became one God. Following longstanding heathen custom, Constantine used the official gathering and the Roman apotheosis decree to legally deify two deities as one, and did so by democratic consent. A new god was proclaimed and "officially" ratified by Constantine (Acta Concilii Nicaeni, 1618). That purely political act of deification effectively and legally placed Hesus and Krishna among the Roman gods as one individual composite. That abstraction lent Earthly existence to amalgamated doctrines for the Empire's new religion; and because there was no letter "J" in alphabets until around the ninth century, the name subsequently evolved into "Jesus Christ".
If you are interested in seeking truth, read through the two links.

One article that says Jesus was created by group of religious heads:
Forged Origins of the New Testament:
Nexus Magazine: by Tony Bushby. He is not Indian or even Hindu.

The other article that almost claims Hindu is subset of Christianity:
New Advent: Hinduism
From Catholic Encyclopedia describing Hinduism.

Dear Reader, please inform Sonia Gandhi to take back her statement where she said "Rama never existed" :)